Seat Position Hard Points
The named 3D reference points we use to define a driver's seating position: the coordinate system, the driver and vehicle hard points, where the measurements come from and what you receive.
When we design custom seat brackets, we do not start from experience and estimates alone. We first describe the car, the seat and every driver as one digital model, made of named 3D reference points: hard points. Each hard point has an exact X, Y and Z position. Together they form a parametric skeleton of the driver, seated in the car, that we can check, adjust and export straight into our CAD software.
The calculations are geometric and reproducible. Image analysis helps us collect body measurements, but it never replaces the calculated model: what you see in the viewer, the hard point table and the final CAD file all come from the same geometry.
The coordinate system
Every project uses one consistent, right-handed coordinate system that is fixed to the vehicle.
- Origin
- Defined in the vehicle baseline and identical for every driver and every export
- X
- Positive towards the front of the car
- Y
- Positive towards the left of the car
- Z
- Positive upwards
- Unit
- Millimetres
A hard point's name combines the driver and the anatomical point, for example DRV01_L_HIP, DRV01_R_KNEE or DRV01_EYE_CENTER. Vehicle points start with VEH. The exact coordinates go from the calculation model into the CAD geometry without any separate rounding.
Driver hard points
These are the points of the anatomical skeleton. They are adjusted to each driver from body measurements, photo analysis or anthropometric data.
The values below are an example for one driver in one car, in millimetres. Your project's values come from your own car, seat and measurements.
Hard point | X | Y | Z | Description |
|---|---|---|---|---|
DRV_PELVIS_CENTER | 0 | 0 | 340 | Centre of the pelvis |
DRV_L_HIP | 0 | 92 | 340 | Left hip joint |
DRV_R_HIP | 0 | -92 | 340 | Right hip joint |
DRV_L_KNEE | 460 | 170 | 465 | Left knee joint |
DRV_R_KNEE | 450 | -160 | 470 | Right knee joint |
DRV_L_ANKLE | 740 | 230 | 165 | Left ankle joint |
DRV_R_ANKLE | 780 | -180 | 170 | Right ankle joint |
DRV_L_HEEL | 765 | 230 | 60 | Left heel |
DRV_R_HEEL | 790 | -180 | 65 | Right heel |
DRV_L_TOE | 825 | 230 | 120 | Left forefoot on the footrest |
DRV_R_TOE | 930 | -180 | 145 | Right forefoot at full throttle |
DRV_L_SHOULDER | -90 | 185 | 850 | Left shoulder joint |
DRV_R_SHOULDER | -90 | -185 | 850 | Right shoulder joint |
DRV_L_ELBOW | 170 | 235 | 750 | Left elbow |
DRV_R_ELBOW | 170 | -235 | 750 | Right elbow |
DRV_L_WRIST | 388 | 175 | 770 | Left wrist |
DRV_R_WRIST | 388 | -175 | 770 | Right wrist |
DRV_L_HAND | 450 | 175 | 770 | Left hand on the steering wheel |
DRV_R_HAND | 450 | -175 | 770 | Right hand on the steering wheel |
DRV_LUMBAR | -28 | 0 | 515 | Lower back reference |
DRV_C7 | -125 | 0 | 955 | Base of the neck (C7) |
DRV_HEAD_CENTER | -115 | 0 | 1045 | Centre of the head |
DRV_EYE_CENTER | -45 | 0 | 1055 | Midpoint between the eyes |
DRV_HEAD_TOP | -115 | 0 | 1150 | Top of the head |
Vehicle hard points
These points describe the car: where the seat is mounted, where the steering wheel sits and how the pedals move.
Hard point | X | Y | Z | Description |
|---|---|---|---|---|
VEH_SEAT_FL | 210 | 205 | 140 | Seat mount, front left |
VEH_SEAT_FR | 210 | -205 | 140 | Seat mount, front right |
VEH_SEAT_RL | -220 | 205 | 140 | Seat mount, rear left |
VEH_SEAT_RR | -220 | -205 | 140 | Seat mount, rear right |
VEH_STEERING_CENTER | 450 | 0 | 770 | Centre of the steering wheel |
VEH_STEERING_AXIS | 540 | 0 | 660 | Second point on the steering column axis |
VEH_STEERING_GRIP_L | 450 | 175 | 770 | Left hand contact on the wheel |
VEH_STEERING_GRIP_R | 450 | -175 | 770 | Right hand contact on the wheel |
VEH_THROTTLE_REST | 880 | -180 | 185 | Throttle pedal at rest |
VEH_THROTTLE_FULL | 930 | -180 | 145 | Throttle pedal fully pressed |
VEH_BRAKE_REST | 860 | 70 | 190 | Brake pedal at rest |
VEH_BRAKE_FULL | 925 | 70 | 145 | Brake pedal fully pressed |
VEH_FOOTREST | 825 | 230 | 120 | Left footrest |
VEH_CLUTCH_REST | 850 | 220 | 185 | Clutch pedal at rest (optional) |
VEH_CLUTCH_FULL | 925 | 220 | 145 | Clutch pedal fully pressed (optional) |
The reference position
Every configuration is checked in a fixed starting position:
Pelvis and H-point at the chosen seat position.
Back and shoulders following the backrest.
Right foot on the throttle, with the pedal fully pressed.
Left foot on the footrest or near the brake, without pressing it.
Both hands on the steering wheel, at roughly nine and three o'clock.
Head and eyes in a plausible driving position, with the line of sight towards the windscreen and the road.
Full throttle is a mandatory check. We also look at:
Brake pedal fully pressed
Steering wheel turned left and right
Seat at its most forward and most rearward setting
Clutch pedal fully pressed, if the car has one
What we check
Hip, knee and ankle angles
Shoulder and elbow angles
Reach to the steering wheel and the pedals
H-point position, seat base angle and backrest angle
Head and helmet clearance
Line of sight and field of view
Room around the knees and legs
Collisions between driver, seat and car
The seat adjustment that is available, and the adjustment that is needed
We only accept configurations that are geometrically plausible. If not every requirement can be met at the same time, we say so instead of forcing an unrealistic skeleton into the car.
Where the measurements come from
Car and seat
We use the most reliable source available, in this order:
Our own verified 3D scan or STEP model
Checked manufacturer CAD or technical drawings
Checked manual measurements
Information found online that has not yet been verified
Geometry estimated from known dimensions
Estimated geometry is never presented as measured CAD data. If there is no verified scan, we can work out a preliminary position, but the exact fit is not confirmed until the geometry is verified, and unverified mounting points are never released for production.
The driver
Checked individual body measurements
Calibrated photo analysis combined with body measurements
Photo analysis combined with statistical models
A statistical dataset without an individual photo
Without a photo, we use a statistical body model from a documented anthropometric dataset, such as DINED from TU Delft. We record the source, population, year and margin of uncertainty, and we never assume that everyone from one country has the same proportions.
Data quality
Every value carries a status, which stays visible in the viewer, the reports and the exports:
- Verified
- Checked scan, CAD data or a reliable manual measurement
- Manufacturer data
- Manufacturer information whose origin and model version are known
- Calculated
- Derived numerically from other values and assumptions
- Estimated
- Estimated from photo analysis, population data or incomplete sources
- Missing
- Required data that is not available yet
Photos for your body measurements
If you would like us to estimate a driver's proportions from photos, this is what works best.
- Full body, side view
Stand upright in a natural posture, with your whole body in the picture, head and feet included.
Take the photo exactly from the side, with your arms slightly away from your body so the joints are visible.
Wear close-fitting clothes, no thick jacket, and no shoes or heels.
Use a plain background if you can, and hold the camera at about hip height, without tilting it.
Avoid wide-angle distortion, and tell us your actual height.
- Full body, front view (recommended)
Stand upright, facing the camera, with arms and legs clearly visible.
Use the same camera distance and settings as for the side view.
- Calibration (recommended)
A measuring stick or another object of known size, in the same plane as the person, helps us check the scale of the image.
One photo cannot capture every real 3D dimension exactly. We check the quality of the photos first and ask for extra photos or measurements when something is uncertain.
More than one driver
A car can have any number of drivers. Each driver gets their own skeleton and position, and we compare them to find:
The most forward and most rearward seat position needed
The lowest and highest usable seat height
The adjustment range needed in X and Z
Differences in backrest and seat base angle
Critical knee and head clearance
Whether one adjustable mounting solution fits every driver
We never assume that the shortest driver needs the most forward position or the tallest the most rearward one: leg length, arm reach and torso length are each taken into account. If no common solution exists, we show which requirements conflict.
What you receive
- STEP
- For Autodesk Inventor: hard points as spheres, connections as cylinders, seat contours and references as CAD geometry
- STL
- For visual checks and meshes
- CSV / Excel
- The complete hard point table with names and XYZ coordinates in millimetres
- JSON
- The full configuration: inputs, transformations, constraints, data status and revision
- Your approval, the key dimensions, starting points, warnings and screenshots
Approval and responsibility
Before anything is exported, you review the proposed configuration and confirm each point separately: the vehicle, the seat, the drivers and their measurements, any estimated data, the seating preference, the pedal and steering positions, the adjustment range and the available space. We record who approved what and when, together with the exact values and sources used. If anything changes afterwards, the approval lapses and a new revision is needed.
You confirm the information you supplied and the seating position you want. We remain responsible for our engineering decisions and verification. An approval is not a substitute for a physical fitment check, a strength check or the vehicle safety requirements that apply.
Questions
Can you work without a 3D scan of my car?
Yes. You can supply a 3D scan, a STEP file or checked technical dimensions, or agree that we continue with estimated geometry for a preliminary position. Estimated data stays marked as such in every screen, report and export, and is verified before anything goes into production.
Do I need to supply photos?
No. Without photos we use your height and a statistical body model from a documented dataset. Photos and individual measurements make the result more accurate.
What happens to my photos and measurements?
Body photos and measurements are personal data. We use them to derive the body segment lengths for your project, protect them with access control, and do not keep the original photos longer than needed.
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